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Postby parulmak » Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:45 pm

Hello Everyone,

I would like to share something related to possession of Savana which I got to know today only by Mr. Rajesh Jain. Now RPS is saying they will start giving the possession only in last quarter of year 2011. Earlier it was Oct'10 then Dec'10 further to Mar'11 now directly end of year 2011.

It is been clearly said that no site visits will be there and we should think of possession only in last quarter. Work is going on but on what pace they are not ready to share.

I am really disappointed.
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Re: Delay in Possession

Postby akash » Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:40 pm

This delay in possession is due to the fact that RPS has parked money raised from selling SAVANA project to purchase land for other RPS projects like RPS Palms, RPS CITY and RPS oxy park.

Now due to bad reputation in SAVANA project they not able to sell other projects, which will further delay the SAVANA project.
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Re: Delay in Possession

Postby akash » Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:43 pm

We should ask RPS to pay the penalty for delaying the project as mentioned in Buyer's agreement...in case they are giving excuses for delay we should take it to consumer court.
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Tricks Developer Play

Postby gaurav2404 » Mon Nov 29, 2010 5:59 pm

Everybody wants a piece of real estate. The sector has been growing at 25-30 per cent a year since 2003, fired primarily by low interest on housing loans and the rising affluence of homebuyers. Those who had bought stocks of real estate companies, whose valuations have gone through the roof, are a happy lot. However, the same cannot necessarily be said of scores of financially and emotionally bleeding homebuyers. The developers play lord and master to middle-income individuals, who often live like monks to fulfill their dream of owning a house. Most sale agreements are heavily loaded in favour of builders in the currently unregulated market.

This disillusionment is reflected in the rise in the number of complaints that has accompanied the growth of the sector. In the first 25 days of August 2007, the Delhi-based National Consumer Helpline, a consumers' body, received 33 housing-related complaints. The Consumer Guidance Society of India (CGSI), Mumbai, says it gets two-three cases a day. In this scenario, what chance do you have of safeguarding your interests as a buyer?

In 1993, the Supreme Court ruled in favour of M.K. Gupta in his case against the Lucknow Development Authority for not delivering his flat on time. This landmark judgment brought housing construction under the purview of the Consumer Protection Act, 1986.

This, however, hasn't done much to change the unscrupulous ways of builders. Owing to the bonhomie between developers, the authorities and the contractors, projects get sanctioned easily but the quality of construction goes unquestioned. Supreme Court advocate C.M. Srikumar says: “Even in cooperative societies, the contractor, the

architect and the office-bearers of the society dupe the public.”

Rahul Todi, managing director, Bengal Shrachi Housing Development, says: “Unlike other consumer products, here we sell a concept first. If there is a gap between expectation and reality, then we are not doing our job properly.”

What are the most common games that developers play? Here are eight common tricks and ways in which you can guard against them.

I. When do I get my house?
Most agreements do not clearly specify the date of delivery. For instance, one says: “Completion of the building is expected to be delivered by the date mentioned in the covering letter of this allotment. The delivery of the possession is subject to force majeure.” What this means is that you cannot hold the developer responsible if he does not stick to the promised delivery date.

There have been cases when the delivery has been delayed by 12 months or more. Typically, the buyer would have paid 95 per cent of the price by the time he reaches the expected delivery date. If he is living in a rented house, delays will drive his calculations awry as he would not have factored in this additional rent (see Double Bite). Mumbai stockbroker Bhupendra M. Pitroda, 58, fought a legal battle against Megha Property Developers for five years. Reason: delayed possession.

Pitroda was promised delivery of the flat he booked in 1998 in Navi Mumbai's Madhuri Cooperative Society Housing Project within 18 months. The builder later said that delivery would take another six months. When Pitroda visited the site six months later, he felt that the delivery would not happen soon. So, he instructed his bank to stop payment of the balance 37.5 per cent of the apartment's cost to Megha Developers.

The developer promptly sold off the flat. An aggrieved Pitroda then moved the State Commission in July 2000. Three years later, the commission asked Megha Developers to refund Pitroda the money he had paid with 15 per cent interest. Pitroda was also awarded a compensation of Rs 15,000 for the mental agony caused and Rs 5,000 for legal costs.

The developer appealed in the National Commission, which upheld the State Commission order but cut the interest to 9 per cent. The developer then moved the Supreme Court. “The Supreme Court judge flung the papers in the face of the builder's lawyer and asked the builder to compensate me immediately. The judgment was over in a minute,” says Pitroda. Through the legal battle, Pitroda made 25 appearances in the State Commission, three in the National Commission and one in the Supreme Court.

Many agreements have penalty clauses for delayed delivery, but they are without bite. For example: “If the company fails to complete the construction of the said building/apartment within the period as aforesaid, then the company shall pay to the allottee compensation at the rate of Rs 5 per sq. ft of the super area per month for the period of such delay.” What this means is that for a 1,000-sq. ft flat, you would get a compensation of Rs 5,000 per month—a pittance (see Double Bite).

In most cases, buyers put up with the delay quietly rather than 'antagonise' the builder. Most fear retribution, harassment and further delays in delivery. This is not entirely baseless. For one, agreement papers are designed to protect the builder. Two, your intention to fight the builder may look like a joke given your handicap in terms of financial prowess and influence. Three, there is no industry regulator you can turn to for redressal. Suresh Virmani of National Consumer Helpline says: “We generally encourage a dialogue between buyers and sellers to settle disputes. If that fails, the matter is taken to the regulatory body. But we can't even suggest this in real estate because there is no regulatory body.”

What to do. Don't just take the builder's word on the progress of construction. Check it out from time to time, as Pitroda did. If you feel a delay is likely, start building up pressure on the developer. The best way to do this is to form a society, says Virmani. Usually, builders have many projects running at the same time and they push the ones where the pressure is higher. “The more the number of buyers, the greater is the pressure,” says Bharath Jairaj of Consumer Action Group, Chennai.

II. Where are my papers?
A lot of builders are evasive about giving the completion certificate at the time of handing over the flat. A completion certificate is issued by municipal authorities and establishes that the building complies with the approved plan. A developer would not get the certificate if he deviates from the plan.


-------- You cannot prove ownership over your house if you don't have the certificate as you would not be able to get the house registered. Also, you may not be able to get utility connections. You will have problems selling, mortgaging or reverse mortgaging the house as it will not be in your name. In the worst case,



the unapproved parts of your house would be demolished by the municipal authorities. Not a happy state of affairs.

Businessman Mohammed Haroon, 45, got his flat in Tulip Garden, Gurgaon, six years ago, but he has not got the completion certificate yet. The same goes for the other 59-odd flat owners there. Together, they took Sarvapriya Developers, which built Tulip Garden, to the consumer court. “After four years, in mid-August this year, the court directed the builder to hand over the completion certificates within a month, or pay Rs 5,000 each as compensation to all the flat owners,” says Haroon. “But we know that none of the two will come our way and are prepared to approach the Delhi High Court in this matter.”
What to do. Sale agreements often don't mention the completion certificate. If yours doesn't and you notice it before signing the papers, insist on the inclusion of a clause that you will be given the completion certificate when the flat is handed over to you. Ask the builder for it as soon as he announces that the house is ready for possession. If, like Haroon, you move into the house without it, the court will probably be your last resort.

III. What's the guarantee of quality?
Within a month of moving into his apartment in Mahagun Manor, Noida, Rajiv Raghunath, 41, got trapped inside the house as the door lock failed. In six months, the plaster started peeling off and the fans stopped working. In another few months, water started seeping in as the pipes had corroded. “I felt cheated. This wasn't worth my money,” says Raghunath.

As of now, there is no way for a buyer to check the building materials used or the quality of construction. Says advocate Anupam Srivastava, who is with law firm Chambers of Law: “Quality is a subjective matter. Buyers should enter into an agreement on the kind of material that the builder will use.”

In October 2005, Pune's Gera Developments started a trend by providing a 5-year warranty on its buildings. The warranty, however, is subject to the conditions that no structural changes be made to the house and that there be no misuse.

What to do. Don't fall for the builder's glib talk. Insist on including the sanctioned plan of the building and the specifications of the raw materials to be used for construction in the purchase agreement. If you are already facing quality problems, you can go to the consumer court. Says Anand Patwardhan, a consumer activist and lawyer: “If you want to approach the consumer court, move it within two years from the day you take possession.” Alternatively, flat owners can form a Residents' Welfare Association (RWA) and get the builder to fix the problems, as Raghunath, an RWA member, did.

IV. What is the price really?
Nishit Babyloni, 38, mech-anical engineer in BHEL, Bhopal, had booked bungalow No. 105 with Ansal Housing and Constructions (AHC) in Pradhan Enclave, Bhopal, in 2004. On a visit to the site five months later, he found that his bungalow was not being built. He asked AHC to give him bungalow No. 120 instead, as construction was in full swing on that. AHC formally changed the allotment in February 2005, but sent him a letter eight months later asking for Rs 3.15 lakh more.

Atit Arora, general manager (marketing) and project head, Ansals Pradhan Enclave, Bhopal, says: “The bungalow's specifications were changed. Babyloni was required to deposit the amount if he wanted the new specifications.” Babyloni retorts that AHC did not tell him about the additional work and the changes in specifications. “We were not told that we would have to pay 25 per cent more for the new bungalow till 18 October 2005.” He is thinking of moving the consumer court. But, it is not unusual for an agreement to say that a builder can ask for additional payments if specifications are changed or there are cost overruns.

There are legal loopholes as well. The Maharashtra Ownership of Flats Act, 1963, protects buyers against malpractices in the sale and transfer of flats. It gives homebuyers the right to inspect the builder's documents such as the specifications that he has obtained from the authorities. The Delhi Apartment Ownership Act, 1986, however, is a different story. Although it was published in the Gazette of India over a decade ago, brought on the statute book by Parliament and given the President's assent, it is yet to be notified.

What to do. The last stop is the consumer court. Says Srikumar, “Many malpractices are offences under the Indian Penal Code, for which the responsible party can be prosecuted.” Keep checking with the builder if any changes are being made to the specifications mentioned in the agreement and the allotment letter.

Also, try to get it mentioned in the contract that if a sum higher than the original price has to be paid by you, the builder would give you additional time for that. You must also ask for a copy of the sanctions that the builder has taken from the authorities to carry out the alterations.

V. What else do i pay for?
To make your house liveable, you will need electricity, water and sewage connections. You will also need electrical wiring, appliances like fans, lights and a water pump, which are unlikely to be part of the package and generally won't be mentioned in the agreement. These will be additional costs that you will have to bear. You might also have to keep some speed money aside for registration so that it gets done in a decent timeframe. In some cases, the builder may make a verbal promise to get it done for you.

What to do. Builders generally have a take-it-or-leave-it attitude with conscientious buyers while striking a deal. Even so, it pays to be scrupulous and to read the agreement and its fine print. “Get a lawyer, an architect or an evaluator to determine the correctness of the purchase,” says Srivastava. Finally, do some quick math and keep aside some funds to get your house up and running.


VI. How big is house?
A typical home purchase agreement states: “The plans, designs, and specifications are tentative and the developer reserves the right to make variations and modifications...” Simply put, in most cases, you won't know the final area of the house till you get it. The agreement will further state, “In case of change in area, the difference in cost of area shall be adjusted at the time of making final payment.”

Shikhar Saxena, partner, Ace Equity Solutions, a leading housing finance franchisee of ICICI Bank, had booked a fully-furnished, air-conditioned service apartment measuring 650 sq. ft (super area) in Cabana Service Apartments in Indirapuram, Ghaziabad, which was being built by Assotech Realty. He got an allotment letter mentioning this area. However, when the builder offered possession, the super area of the flat had increased to 671 sq. ft. “Once the authorities approve of the floor space index, how can the builder change it?” he asks. After holding out for over 18 months, the choice before him now is to either accept all the terms of the builder or seek cancellation of his allotment. Further, he was informed that the maintenance charge, which was to be Rs 1.50 per sq. ft per month, has been increased to Rs 7 per sq. ft per month. The agreement shields the builder. It says “the monthly maintenance charges will be subject to revision from time to time”.

Assotech's Elegante project, also in Indi-rapuram, was to have terrace gardens on the seventh and thirteenth floors. “There is only a patch of green; the developer has built units on these floors too,” says a buyer. Srikumar says there is nothing one can do unless the size of the garden is specified in the agreement.

What to do. Builders usually follow the same practices through all their projects. So, before buying, check out the builder's earlier projects to see if he plays fair. Start a blog or join one to share your experiences with others, though this doesn't guarantee redressal. You can read about the mistakes and experiences of other people on websites like mouthshut.com.

VII. What's the carpet area?
Most residential units in India are sold on the basis of the super built-up area, which includes open spaces like space for lifts, staircases and parking, among other things. But, what you really get is the carpet area, which literally means the area that you can carpet. This can be 15-35 per cent less than the super built-up area. In 2005, HDFC chairman Deepak Parekh had said the company would provide loans at cheaper rates to developers who sell their flats on the basis of carpet area. But, there has been little headway on this front. Some developers, especially in Bangalore, sell on the basis of carpet area. In Pune, too, the builders' association has decided to increase the carpet area by 25 per cent to arrive at the saleable built-up area charged to the buyer. In both these cases, buyers are aware of the area they will get. Though there is still a long way to go, experts believe that soon properties all over India would be sold on the basis of carpet area.

What to do. Buy property on the basis of carpet area, although the builder will not like the idea. Argue with him that if the super built-up area is mentioned on the basis of the approvals and sanctions, the carpet area can be quantified. Says Srikumar: “There should be a provision for termination of the contract and resumption of the property so that builders don't have an upper hand. However, in the absence of rules, buyers should be vigilant.”

VIII. Will I get a well-managed property?
The developer may promise to maintain the building or complex in the initial years. The service, however, may not be satisfactory. Residents of Mahagun Manor in Noida have taken over its maintenance. “The homebuyers cannot even use the Right to Information Act, 2005, to their advantage because it doesn't apply to private builders or even group cooperative housing societies,” says Srivastava.

What to do. You are unlikely to get relief through correspondence and phone calls. You can go the e-way to attract the builder's attention. For months, Delhi-based developer Unitech ignored the complaints of the residents of one of their premier offerings, Uniworld City. Then, a resident shot a nine-minute video that captured the visible flaws of the project, and posted it on YouTube.com, a broadcast site. Their grievances were soon attended to. You can use websites like http://www.consumerhelpline.in and http://www.cgsiindia.org to seek further guidance.

Though the dice is clearly in favour of the builder, the buyers can still fight back and many of them are doing so. Now, the government urgently needs to put a regulator in place to ensure proper disclosures and protect the buyers.
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Re: Delay in Possession

Postby ddamitav » Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:39 pm

Just had a word with RPS........... Now they have rescheduled the possession by 1 more year i.e, they are planning to give possession by end of 2012 that to 2 and 2+1

Shameless Company...........

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Re: Delay in Possession

Postby amitkd.pharm » Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:37 pm

I too had a word with them. For 3 and 3+1, they told me atleast 2 years more :-(

Badly trapped with RPS/HUDA.. Cant see a way out..

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Re: Delay in Possession

Postby akhileshgupta » Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:51 am

Mail written to RPS -- NO REPLY till yet (2 weeks over)
Dear Sir
So nice & thanks for your informatory mail. What is the rate of the booking which will be closed on 15th Nov 2011. We understand that RPSGroup is ISO company with a HIGH Name and Fame in International Infrastructure Market. The company has won a number of Awards and High Creditibility for so many years continiously.
But,it is highly unfortunate to write that you are unable to keep this TRUST and Faith with yours customers now as you are not followed the commitments with SAVANA customers.
We booked our Flat with yours prestigious scheme SAVANA in 2006, at that time you shown a lot of green dreams to us. The construction time was 3 years... means by 2009 u assured us to grant possession and be proud of staying at your world class township. You progressed very well and took 90% payment from the customers within THREE years. You are highly profesional Businessmen that you charged INTREST from the customers for late payments (even for a couple of days ... may be delay due to loan bank...etc). You have also charged Enhanced EDC from the customers. We are sure that you follow all rules & regulations.

AS 5 YEARS TIME HAS PASSED... THERE IS NO HOPE OF POSSESSION TO STAY IN NEAR FUTURE. YOU WILL PAY PENALTY MONEY RS 5 X FLAT AREA X 24 MONTHS X INTEREST OVER PENALTY TO THE CUSTOMER WITHOUT DELAY.

Not known how many Diwali will pass without residing in our own home.
No development is seen at site.. What a great funny is yours rules. Even after paying so much Lacs of money, we are not allowed to look our flats at a glance. Guards don't allow us to enter in the Tower.
In this manner, you are loosing all your reputation. Seems that you are managing your ISO status by malpracte. Later or sooner, Your company may be blacklisted.
It is time to wake up; please do needful to re-build trust & faith with your customer, call them for meetings, get together, share work program for balance activities. We all are one Team. We united can meet HUDA and other departments to expedite the External Development works. We wish and need your success. Please think positive and associate we all.
Please Reply.
Thanks in advance
Savana Residence Welfare Group.
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Re: Delay in Possession

Postby ddamitav » Sun Dec 18, 2011 6:08 pm

Gents,

Anothyer lollypop was thrown to us from RPS Management, they have updated their web site abut the schedule of possession. following is the extract

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Dear Savana Family Members,


Greetings from RPS Group!


This is needless to state that without the immense support and co-operation of our privileged customers, the biggest Group Housing venture “RPS Savana” would not have been initiated at Sector 88, Faridabad.


Our ultimate objective is to live up to the expectations of our customers and we are trying our best to achieve the same. But it cannot be overlooked that sometimes projects / ventures pass through unfavourable phases and hurdles. Our project has also confronted market volatility, global recession, acute shortage of construction related work force, sky-rocketed cost of construction, delay in getting payments/ instalments, and many more. Despite all odd and adverse experiences, RPS group has tried to maintain continuous execution of its project which would have been impossible without the support of our esteemed customers.


A major setback experienced by developers in Greater Faridabad area is lack of proper infrastructure by Competent Authorities due to which properties are attracting low premium and sentiments of most of the investors are getting affected. Furthermore, some of our customers have also approached us with feedback that it would not be worth for them to accept offer for possession without start of infrastructural development in the area.


Now, when we are heading towards fulfilling your expectations, we would like to share with all our valued customers that we are scheduling to start offering possession in a phased manner. During the very first phase, we are planning to start offering possession for 6-10 towers on or before December, 2012. Though exact tower details will be made available in due course but it is planned to cover maximum nos. out of towers Blue Beech – 1,2,4 & 5, Bay Berry- 3,6,7 & 8 and Sapphire Berry -09,10 in phase –I of possession.


We understand that our customers must be waiting to get their own home as early as possible, especially when many of our customers are living in rented accommodation. In this context, we would like to reiterate that we are bound by agreed terms and conditions of the Buyer’s Agreement including the penalty clause. Penalty will be due, calculated and adjusted at the time of offering possession to all the eligible customers.


We are thankful to all our esteemed customers who have shown their faith in RPS group and extending their co-operation for successful execution of project. Looking forward for the successful completion of a mutual dream called “RPS Savana”.

With Warm Regards,

RPS Infrastructure Ltd.
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if RPS is serious enough then they can give a milestone of construction..........
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